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Is the new Six Sam Xyz going to make Six Sams top tier meta again?
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PostSubject: Future of the Meta   Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:33 pm

This is more about decks that are goiung to be rather than about like ban lists and such.
As the March ban list showed us, there is no predicting Konami.

Anyhow since The new Six Sam Structur deck is coming out at the end of the month lets take a look at the new Xyz:
Shadow of the Six Samurai:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Shadow_of_the_Six_Samurai_-_Shien

This guy can boost another six sam on the field. We don't know to what yet (my money is on 3000 though).
It takes 2 lvl 4 six sams so Kizan is going to see some more play.
Other than that we don't know too much about the deck, I've heard rumors of other shadow of the six samurais though so this may become one of the most broken structure decks ever.

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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:57 pm

It doesn't seem all that amazing to me. It could be a decent card to put in the Extra, but I doubt the meta will be affected much. I say no, but for some reason it won't let me vote.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Wed Jun 27, 2012 4:10 am

I'll be honest. Six Sam lost tier 1 position after this poop meta came in. drop a gorz on them, and it's pretty much gg. they have been tier 1, sometime ago, but not anymore. and one xyz that's worse then XX-Saber invoker, ain't gonna help.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:31 pm

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I'll be honest. Six Sam lost tier 1 position after this poop meta came in. drop a gorz on them, and it's pretty much gg. they have been tier 1, sometime ago, but not anymore. and one xyz that's worse then XX-Saber invoker, ain't gonna help.

Saying its worse than invoke isn't really fair.
Putting kageki at original 2000 would make it a 3500 beater and the gets over most everything.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:32 pm

and then what? wouldn't you rather use kageki as Synchro material? or as beat stick?
what if the other sams go down, then you have a 200 target as a sitting duck. I'd rather use it for building something constructive, like Naturia Beast or Barkion
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Wed Jun 27, 2012 3:46 pm

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and then what? wouldn't you rather use kageki as Synchro material? or as beat stick?
what if the other sams go down, then you have a 200 target as a sitting duck. I'd rather use it for building something constructive, like Naturia Beast or Barkion

But then still it might be easier to get out your rank 4 than your lvl 5/6 synchro you may not have a tuner in your hand but still have 2 kizans.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:59 am

well it all depends on wat deck u run if u run a deck wit jus a few tuners its gona be hard i run fabled and i have tuners to last a week lol but i incorperate excede and synchro jus so i can keep up wit the ban list and format.....six sam is not gona see the light of day anymore this yr they went downhill fast so i think chaos dragon is gona be top tier....i have a question wat do yall think bout the tins coming out
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:08 am

yeah, then you have 2 kizans. rather build blade armor ninja or utopia then that thing. cuz after you attacked, then it's a sitting duck. Utopia can protect it, even though it can also be mind controlled and used for Utopia Ray, but the odds of that happening are too low. The Six Sam Xyz is just too bad to take in the room in your extra deck. it's not worth running it. Too situational
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:17 am

true i used da six sam xyz today jus to test it omg it doesnt help out none i mean really konami jus said Fudge it lets remake six sam and add a xyz jus for them and this is wat they come out wit
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:23 pm

Ok the majority of everybody hates the Six Sam Xyz.
Lets move on to some thing's I've seen from incoming packs starting with Geargias.

Geargias are a new machine-type archetype that focuses around searching the deck and xyz smmons.
That being said are they going to be popular enough to become meta and force everyone to run CyDra and Chimeratech Fortress?
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:15 pm

u knw wat dat is true i have faced that deck before and it works very well and also with that i run the xyz in my karakuri deck do u think karakuri will top with the new machines and wat about the new zombie deck that is gona be coming up
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:03 am

Geargias are good, but I don't know if they'll manage to keep up with stuff like Inzektors and Dino Rabbits. They might be meta, but they'll at least be a good Tier 2 deck.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 7:20 am

Geargia's the only deck, except for Karakuri, of the machine type that can spam the field considerably and have a bit of control. but, as all machine decks, and like biff noted before, it's also incredibly weak against CyDra. So if this deck does become tier 2, which I think is highly possible, when becoming tcg, it will be more then likely that people start siding CyDra's in again. not to mention the possibility of CyDra deck coming bback in action, like Cyber Twin OTK, or Cyber Control
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:42 am

I'd like to see what the rest of the TCG exclusives are before deciding wheter its going to be tier one or 2.
Like with Advance Zone. all tribute decks are going to run it just because it can do a ton of stuff that help tribute decks.
Destroying random set cards, drawing, adding monsters from the grave to your hand. Hieriatics will be running it and it will help.
If only to force an MST.

I'm hoping for a machine ROTA personally, but thats never going to happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:43 am

when the new packs come out i guarantee that karkuri will be seen more so we r gona start seein more machines if they blow inzektors and dino-rabbits out the woodwork which means everyone is gona either main CyDra or side 2 and main either 1 or 2 Chimeratech Fortress but we jus gota wait and see
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:22 pm

ZombieKing19 wrote:
when the new packs come out i guarantee that karkuri will be seen more so we r gona start seein more machines if they blow inzektors and dino-rabbits out the woodwork which means everyone is gona either main CyDra or side 2 and main either 1 or 2 Chimeratech Fortress but we jus gota wait and see

I doubt that karakuris are going to change the top tier too much.
However Konami's weird and might give machines a huge upgrade so its possible
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:29 pm

yea konami will have sumthin for machines and also CyDra will go up in price so will all cyber dragons related cards jus cuz of the new machines coming out
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:15 am

Konami manages to surprise everyone with every new banlist. Like nobody expected Earth to be hit, which is totally useless. Also the entire Plant Engine being gone. I know it's to promote Xyz, and that they do it by hurting the other Summoning types, but if you wouldn't know that, it's a random call to ban all that.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:35 pm

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Konami manages to surprise everyone with every new banlist. Like nobody expected Earth to be hit, which is totally useless. Also the entire Plant Engine being gone. I know it's to promote Xyz, and that they do it by hurting the other Summoning types, but if you wouldn't know that, it's a random call to ban all that.

I'm guessing that with all the complaints and what have you Konami's going to make a non-profit ban list next.
If anyone understands what I'm saying.
They're probly gonna hit wind-up loop and bring plants back.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:39 pm

unlikely. Plants are gone, and to promote Xyz, they ain't gonna hit them.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:48 pm

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unlikely. Plants are gone, and to promote Xyz, they ain't gonna hit them.

Way to crush my hopes and dreams, and most plant players'.
I can still hope.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 2:50 pm

off course, you can, and by all means, I hope they bring it back as well, and hit Inzektors once in a while. but the way things are going now, it isn't looking good :l
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:17 pm

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off course, you can, and by all means, I hope they bring it back as well, and hit Inzektors once in a while. but the way things are going now, it isn't looking good :l
No it really doesn't right now we're waiting for the next broke thing to come out and the meta will change.
If this keeps up it might turn into pre-ban list OTK format.
That style anyway.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:30 pm

it's as it always goes in the world, they say. You're only starting your journey to end up where you started again. (seriously, what douche thought of that ._.)
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:46 pm

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it's as it always goes in the world, they say. You're only starting your journey to end up where you started again. (seriously, what douche thought of that ._.)
Probably a relative who thought up the saying
'It's always in the last place you think to look.'
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:49 pm

yeah, most likely. What say you we strap them to traintracks and wait for the intercity to pass by?
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:52 pm

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yeah, most likely. What say you we strap them to traintracks and wait for the intercity to pass by?

Agreed.

Now let us look even further into the looking glass.
Mermails
That xyz is Dolkka on steroids.
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:57 pm

Understatement. The card is OP. Needs 2 lvl 7 water monsters though, and where do you get those from so easily?
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:58 pm

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Understatement. The card is OP. Needs 2 lvl 7 water monsters though, and where do you get those from so easily?

Using Atlantean Dragoon and mermail Abyss whats his name the lvel 7
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PostSubject: Re: Future of the Meta   Mon Jul 02, 2012 5:05 pm

i hate dat plants r gone i had a junk dopple deck and omg i ran ppl wit it but now since da main 2 plants r gone its kinda hard
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