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| Subject: Mandatory - Optional effects Tue Jul 10, 2012 3:45 am | |
| Mandatory effects are effects that have to happen. They don't give you a choice. Nor will they miss timing. Examples are; Sangan: - Spoiler:
When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: Add 1 monster with 1500 or less ATK from your Deck to your hand.
Ally of Justice Catastor: - Spoiler:
1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters At the start of the Damage Step, if this card battles a non-DARK monster: Destroy that monster immediately (without damage calculation).
Optional effects are effects that you can choose to use. There are two different versions of optional effects, the If effects and the When effects. Optional If: Neo-Spacian Grand Mole: - Spoiler:
At the start of the Damage Step, if this card battles an opponent's monster: You can return both monsters to the hand (without damage calculation).
Optional When: Black Rose Dragon: - Spoiler:
1 Tuner + 1 or more non-Tuner monsters When this card is Synchro Summoned, you can destroy all cards on the field.
If effects don't start a chain, since they only care that the requirement is met, for example, "if this card is summoned". in that case, it only cares that it's summoned, and not at the time that it is summoned. it will simply start a new chain after the old one resolved. When effects miss timing when they're not the last thing to happen in a chain. This is due to the fact that it says "when this card is summoned", meaning, at the exact time it's summoned, it's effect activates. and when it happens while a chain is resolving, you can't use those effects, because you can't chain during the resolve of a chain link. hence they miss timing, and cannot be used. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mandatory - Optional effects Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:47 pm | |
| An example of missed timing: Lightpulsar Dragon: - Spoiler:
You can Special Summon this card (from your hand) by banishing 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your Graveyard. You can Special Summon this card (from your Graveyard) by sending 1 LIGHT and 1 DARK monsters from your hand to the Graveyard. When this card is sent from the field to the Graveyard: You can target 1 Level 5 or higher DARK Dragon-Type monster in your Graveyard; Special Summon that target.
If Lightpulsar is destroyed by: Soul Taker: - Spoiler:
Destroy 1 face-up monster your opponent controls. Then, your opponent gains 1000 Life Points.
Due to the lifepoint gain happening directly after the destruction and the gain being a mandartory effect lightpulsar misses the timing and cannot summon a Dark Dragon. | |
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| Subject: Re: Mandatory - Optional effects Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:48 pm | |
| mhm, one of many possible scenario's. Still, King of miising timing is and always will be Peten, The Dark Clown | |
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